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I have a different theory. There wasn’t just one leak/release, SARS-CoV-2 was circulating in the US in spring 2019 sooner, and more attention needs to be paid to the possibility that America is at least partly responsible.

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Jessica, Did you happen to read my story where 90 people who think they might have had an early case contacted me?

Regarding your theory that this virus was circulating in spring 2019 or sooner, take a look at what this lady told me in an email.

If her tale is true, this would be a narrative-changer. A March 2019 case confirmed by antibody test. It also shows that some hospital went back and tested archived blood. Someone was looking for early cases - found one and we have never heard of this. She seems believable to me:

Possible case from March 2019 …

My friend, Blake, was living in Brooklyn in March 2019 when he developed a severe pneumonia. He was hospitalized at NYU Langone and treated with antibiotics and I believe steroids and oxygen. The physicians were puzzled by the unusual appearance of his chest X-ray. He ultimately was discharged and slowly recovered at home. In the summer of 2021 he was contacted by NYU who had kept a sample of his blood on file. NYU told him the blood tested positive for Covid.

I was intrigued by Blake’s story since I had been ill at about the same time as him. Only I had marked swelling of my ankle and knee joints, elevated liver enzymes and multiple embolic phenomena in my fingers. The illness lasted several weeks and then slowly resolved. I never got Covid when the pandemic happened and had multiple negative tests. When Blake told me about the NYU call in the summer of 2021, I decided to take the T-detect test which came back positive for Covid-activated T cells. So I had had Covid 19 sometime in the past but no antibodies in 2020 or 2021.I am convinced that Covid was in the US in early 2019. 

Source:

https://billricejr.substack.com/p/i-asked-for-early-spread-anecdotes

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Yep, I had read these. Makes sense and fits with other data.

Why isn’t the US govt interested in public inquiry around this question if circulation/spread in this country?

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Your question of course answers itself and is one I've asked repeatedly. There's no interest whatsoever in "pubic" feedback or in any germane information provided by U.S. citizens.

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Which is exactly what we would expect from a country that is largely to blame and has much to hide.

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I've been talking to my wife about this. Why would a NY City hospital contact someone in Sept. 2021 and tell him the blood they kept on file from March 2019 tested positive for Covid? Have you heard of any other hospital doing this? Why weren't the positive results publicized? How many other stored units of blood from that long ago tested positive? Did the hospital initiate this project on its own? Or is this some government instigated project? If early spread was happening that early, wouldn't everyone want to keep it hush hush? Why would they even call this person and tell him this? He just went and told his girl friend, who told me ... If this person had Covid in March 2019, we can forget everything about Wuhan and the Wuhan lab. I've found plenty of other testimonials of people who say they had it this early, but this is the first person who said they've got antibody evidence. Don't you think this is a potentially big or explosive story? How would you proceed? My email is: wjricejunior@gmail.com.

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Clearly, the story requires much more empirical support. What date was the call made and by whom at that NYC City hospital? Does your source have the bill with the call logged on it? Did that city hospital have any NIH, HHS, AID or military contracts pertaining to SARS or coronavirus type research, etc etc. Alternatively, the person who made the call was just doing investigative work herself (or with colleagues) because they were sincerely curious about something that was amiss and was trying to figure it out?

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3 OCT 2019 . . . Canadian government scientist under investigation trained staff at Level 4 Lab in [Wuhan] China

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/national-microbiology-lab-scientist-investigation-china-1.5307424

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Dec 20, 2022Liked by Godfree Roberts

This is what I about to say as well. I think it's possible that there's lab spillover, or hell even intentional leak for testing before spring 2019. Later the virus, which still a rather benign at this point but very adaptable still, spread all over the world but mostly in Europe then back to the US. I guess the virus actually mutates its lethality factor when it back to the US after travelling around Europe as shown by the "vaping death".

People said the US intentionally spreading this first in China via their team for the Military Omlympiad as shown by the poor perfomance. But they got it backward: the US team poorly perform because they already caught the virus and their symptomps makes them unfit for competition.

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14 JUL 2019 . . . Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband, students escorted out of Canadian Level 4 lab in Winnipeg, removal of unauthorized material from Winnipeg to China, group involved in setting up Level 4 lab in Wuhan . . .

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567

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14 JUL 2019 . . . Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband, students escorted out of Canadian Level 4 lab in Winnipeg, removal of unauthorized material from Winnipeg to China, group involved in setting up Level 4 lab in Wuhan . . .

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567

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Thanks for this.

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SARS Covid-19 is a biological weapon . . . the 'vaccines' aren't really vaccines, they are 'treatments' . . . but basically, a bioweapon used to counteract another bioweapon . . . Dr. Fauci is a criminal. There's no doubt about that.

Infected persons were purposely sent abroad like suicide bombers . . . a couple of million expendable vessels are a mere drop in the bucket to the Chinese Empire.

Most people are under a false impression that biological warfare produces immediate mass casualties like most chemical warfare does. I say 'most' because the drug smuggling is chemical warfare too. Where does most of the Fentanyl come from? Ukraine and China. Think about that one.

Volodymyr Zelensky is an Israeli operative . . . How Israel Turned Fentanyl Into a Weapon of War . . . https://russia-insider.com/en/how-israel-turned-fentanyl-weapon-war-ftn-podcast-transcript/ri30208

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Seems at this point unlikely we will ever hear the final aria. Perhaps in less combative times international cooperation would have been possible to determine Patient Zero, but the pandemic has been so politicized, as has so much else.

Lots of people think evidence supports the lab leak hypothesis, which, apropos of the above, begs the question: which lab and where? Presumably not the "infamous" Wuhan lab upon which Fauci had fixed his tentacles.

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3 OCT 2019 . . . Canadian government scientist under investigation trained staff at Level 4 Lab in [Wuhan] China

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/national-microbiology-lab-scientist-investigation-china-1.5307424

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Thanks for your interest in this topic.

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Dec 23, 2022·edited Dec 23, 2022

Not the best source because anyone can write anything they want, but on the anonymous imageboard /pol/ from 4chan, a poster from "Eastern Canada" on 21 October 2019 was claiming a "bizarre and reproducible" result was frequently "popping up on our multiplex PCR machine" that was "Similar to coronavirus in the fact some of the PCR results got flagged for coronavirus but not SARS"

Also, the size was "generally around 35kb which is MASSIVE for an RNA virus."

He said people were excited to see this "Massive RNA virus, [with] no obvious symptoms, NP swabs detected it on a PCR machine."

See (NSFW):

https://archive.vn/furbW and https://archive.vn/uupYM

Again, it's just an anonymous image board, but you can't edit posts once they are made. And why would someone just decide to go on the internet in 21 Oct 2019 just to post nonsense about a coronavirus-like virus being found in PCR tests? The timing is too coincidental.

Regarding the size:

- "Coronaviruses possess the largest genomes (26.4 to 31.7 kb) among all known RNA viruses" (Viruses 2010, 2, 1804-1820; doi:10.3390/v2081803)

- "The genome size of RNA viruses is generally shorter than that of DNA viruses and ranges approximately from 2 to 31 kb. The smallest RNA virus... is about 1.7 kb in size" (BioNumbers, BNID 105570)

- "The SARS-CoV-2 genome consists of nearly 30,000 RNA bases" (MIT News Office, 11 May 2021)

Dr. Fleming has even made the argument that there were 3 coronaviruses lab-leaked around the same time.

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3 OCT 2019 . . . Canadian government scientist under investigation trained staff at Level 4 Lab in [Wuhan] China

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/national-microbiology-lab-scientist-investigation-china-1.5307424

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